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Jerry Bergman

Interlocutor name:
Jerry
Interlocutor surname:
Bergman
Researcher:
Józef Markiewicz
Operator:
Grzegorz Liwiński
Catalogue number:
MPOLIN-HM546
Recording date:
7th February 2018
Recording location:
Warszawa
Recording duration:
2:15:15
Format:
Video
Recording language:
Polish
Recording copyright:
POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews
Project:
March’68 Participants and Witnesses

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Jerry Bergman was born in Tarnów in 1948, in the third largest city in the Galicia region and important in the consciousness of the Jewish community. His parents emigrated to the east at the beginning of the War, when they as yet did not know each other. When they settled in Tarnów and started a family, they ran a religious, kosher, Jewish home, in which both Polish and Yiddish were spoken. After the War, his father worked in the postal service and his mother looked after the home. When he was living in the city, there was already no synagogue, but was replaced with a prayer-house, which was actually a separate room. In 1967, he graduated from technical school and became interested in photography and film. He then wanted to study in a film school, but he doubted that he could due to his origin.

Due to the growing societal tensions, he felt that there would be a need to Leave Poland. In the interview, he recalls that, when he was a young boy, he wanted to wear a beard, something about which his mother was not happy. One day, on the bus, he overheard, “And I thought that all the Jews had been gassed”. He understood then why his mother was not happy with her son’s beard. In 1965, he wanted to leave for Israel, but his parents would not consent. Eventually, on 24th October 1969, he left the country. He assumed that he would go to Israel. However, he stopped in Vienna in order to wait for his parents, who he then wanted to relocate in Europe. He remained there for a few days and then went to Denmark. His parents, however, never left  Poland. His father died in 1980 and was buried in Tarnów. His mother passed away a few years later and was buried in Kraków.

He did not plan to stay longer in Denmark. As he says, he was there “in suspense”. At that time, the emigre community had differing views, the result of which was that confusion reigned. He began studying something in which he had an interest, namely film. He also began work as a photographer through establishing contacts with the local press. In time, he worked with the large agencies and became a Denmark correspondent. He became Deputy Chairman of the Foreign Correspondents and had accreditation to the Royal Palace and to Parliament. He photographed the waves of refugees and illustrated the covers of books on that subject. He then established a committee which dealt organising Polish-Jewish seminars, namely meetings of emigrant young people. After a long stay in Denmark, his first return to Poland for the funeral of his father.

As Deputy-Chairman of the Committee for the Preservation of Jewish Cultural Monuments in Tarnów, he is actively involved in the protection of his heritage. About his emigration experience, he says, “Without doubt, if your mind works well, it is a chance to enrich your knowledge and gain a mass of experience. It is an education. It is a chance to start life anew in a new place. To do that without any help is an excellent experience which can either benefit or harm (…) people have committed suicide because they simply could not find a place for themselves in the new reality. But, if someone has some energy, you can become enormously enriched in both common sense and experience. (…) But it is expensive. There is a price to pay and some may certainly be put off by that (…) I remember people, from our period of emigration, who walked along the street, talking loudly to themselves. For sure, there were some who paid a terrible price. There is no doubt. For some, it must have been a terrible tragedy (…) I emerged from these crises – some did not, because the crisis can be terrible.” For the temporary exhibition “Estranged. March '68 and Its Aftermath”, Jerry Bergman gave a hanukkiah which he had found as a child playing games in attics in Tarnów.

Recording circumstances description

Interview has been recorded at POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews in Warsaw.

 

Recording summary

  1. Interviewee’s place of birth; 00:01:15
  2. Finding the hanukkiah, giving it into the collection of the POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jew; 00:03:35
  3. Information about the Interviewee’s family and the period when he was growing up; 00:04:50
  4. The Jewish community of Tarnów, from pre-War years until 1968; 00:07:02
  5. The prayer-house in Tarnów; 00:10:05
  6. Information about Jerry Bergman’s parents: pre-War emigration, education, occupations; 00:12:12
  7. Distant relatives: cousins, Interviewee’s father’s first marriage; 00.18.28
  8. Plans of emigration: feelings about the growing social unrest, the willingness to go to Israel, Interviewee’s parents’ fears; 00:19:50,
  9. The end of middle school in 1967 and his developing interest in film and photography; 00:23:17
  10. Emigration plans; 00:27:10
  11. The response to the Interviewee’s beard and the reaction of the two women in the bus; 0:30:50
  12. Interviewee’s Jewish peers in Tarnów; 00:34:19
  13. The March events in Tarnów against the background of nationwide events (street riots, the arrival of the militia at his home to confirm Jerry Bergman’s letter); 0:35:19
  14. Interviewee’s stay in Łódź in 1965 (an interview with the father of one his friends about his feelings regarding a recent meeting in Israel); 0:42:55
  15. Emigration (assuming to Israel and staying longer in Denmark waiting for his parents to join him); 00:46:11
  16. The dates of death and places of burial of Interviewee’s parents; 00:47:40
  17. The decision to leave Poland and Interviewee’s parents’ reaction; 0:48:41
  18. The Tarnów community in Israel; 00.49:25
  19. Receiving a travel document and going to Warsaw for a visa; 00:51:55
  20. The road to Austria (Vienna) and Denmark (Copenhagen); 00:55:20
  21. Neglecting Interviewee’s studies due to his thinking his stay in Denmark will be short; 00:59:30
  22. Interviewee’s professional development in Denmark (the beginning of studies relating to the theory of film, the return to his passion of photography reflecting in his work); 01:04:57
  23. The specifics of the March ‘68 emigration from a Danish viewpoint; 01:09:13
  24. The Interviewee’s activities and the creation of a committee to care for emigrant Polish-Jewish youth (the committee’s activities); 01:13:17
  25. The atmosphere surrounding the trip (the Czech-Austrian border, Zebrzydowice); 01:19:00
  26. Contact with Interviewee’s parents; 01:23:54
  27. His first return to Poland after his long stay in Denmark; 01:24:19
  28. The issues of youth coping with emigration; 01:35:10
  29. Funding the committee; 01:36:56
  30. A discussion about documents (the travel document and passport for a political refugee); 01:39:50
  31. Gaining Danish citizenship; 01:42:29
  32. Interviewee’s involvement in heritage protection in Tarnów; 01:43:40
  33. Interviewee’s current connections with Poland; 01:44:34
  34. The world through the eyes of an emigrant; 01:50:08
  35. Finding himself in exile in a foreign society; 01:53:20
  36. Assessing his current identification in society; 01:57:15
  37. Conclusions which should be drawn by Polish society on the 50th anniversary of the March events; 02:01:26
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