Ewa Kondrak i Maria Zając .

Interlocutor name:
Ewa Kondrak i Maria Zając
Interlocutor surname:
Józef Markiewicz
Przemysław Jaczewski
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Recording date:
29th August 2019
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POLIN Museum of the History of the Polish Jews
Poles Active in the Protection of Jewish Heritage

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Interlocutor biogram

Ewa Kondrak and Maria Zając are part of the milieu that has been formed around the Jan Karski Society and the Culture of Meeting and Dialogue Institute in Kielce. They got to know each other and became friends while participating in events organized by these organisations, such as the “ABC of Judaism” course, or commemorations of anniversaries related to the history of Kielce Jews. Their interest in Jewish culture resulted from conversations on this subject in their family homes.

Recording circumstances description

The interview was recorded at the Culture of Meeting and Dialogue Institute, 7 Planty Street.

Recording summary

  1. Maria Zając's first contact with Jewish issues through family conversations about the Kielce pogrom; 00:00:25
  2. Ewa Kondrak's first contact with Jewish issues through her grandfather's stories about Jewish neighbours and colleagues from before the war; 00:02:50
  3. Jews and the Kielce pogrom were erased from memory before the activities of Bogdan Białek, the founder of the Jan Karski Society; residents' resistance against accepting the truth about the pogrom; public’s perception of the society's activities; 00:04:35
  4. Participation in anniversaries of the pogrom, in the same small group; 00:06:35
  5. Interviewees’ motivations for participating in events commemorating Kielce Jews: the need for remembrance, longing for multicultural society, honouring Jews who co-created Polish culture; 00:08:15
  6. Participation in the ‘ABC of Judaism’ course, its programme; sympathy for a group of participants; 00:09:30
  7. The interviewees’ getting to know each other in the Jan Karski Society; the formation of friendly relations in the group of participants of events organized by the society; 00:12:00
  8. Participation in Remembrance Pilgrimages to Treblinka; 00:13:45
  9. Promoting a homogeneous vision of Polish society through education; contemporary ethnic and national minorities in Kielce; 00:15:30
  10. Associating Kielce with the pogrom; 00:17:15
  11. Impact of actions and commemorations regarding the Kielce pogrom on Kielce inhabitants, 00:21:00
  12. Kielce monuments and places of commemoration of events related to Kielce Jews; 00:24:25
  13. Explaining Kielce pogrom as a result of a provocation; 00:29:15
  14. Church participation in the remembrance of Jews and the pogrom, 00:24:40
  15. Interviewees’ contact with invited Israeli groups and descendants of Kielce Jews; 00:37:35
  16. Lack of knowledge about Jews currently living in Kielce; 00:38:15
  17. Synagogue building - awareness, cemetery, from home, 00:39:35
  18. Stories told by father and father-in-law; 00:43:38
  19. Ewa Kondrak's suspicion that her father was a Jewish child saved by her grandfather; 00:45:08
  20. Tours along the Jewish heritage trail - Chmielnik, Chęciny; 00:48:12
  21. The need for an activist who would take care of Jewish heritage; 00:50:28
  22. The room of a Jewish tailor in the heritage park in Tokarnia; 00:52:38
  23. Lack of official Jewish heritage trail in Kielce; Kielce hospital founded by a Jewish doctor; visit to Dąbrowa Tarnowska, 00:53:35
  24. The synagogue in Kielce and the Jewish school - state of repair of the buildings; 00:56:40
  25. Questions about Jewish descent; 00:58:05
  26. Translocation of the house of prayer; 01:00:03
  27. Destruction of Kielce monuments; 01:01:45
  28. A change of awareness possible thanks to education, promotion of multiculturalism and transfer of attitudes at home; 01:03:55


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